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Enlisted On: 12.05.2018


22.10.2018, 21:15 

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

Dear RoHs,
Your ban was issued under my instructions,

ehh, Shark you taking this one for the team are you amused
As any other regular player with such a backlog of past infractions (and warnings and kicks too) would have already been served with time-out from our servers anyways.

Ture, but almoust every player who knows how to kill has a log like that becouse of the imported rules, it's up to you who you point youre finger to.


Raping grounded aircraft, team-stacking, team-switching to the winning team followed by raping grounded aircraft again and again. You also seem to be fond of the capping 'n raping airfield for breakfast strategy too which isn't a very commendable gameplay to start a match with (war is war, true, what I want to say with this paragraph is that it appears to us as if you actually enjoy raping the less experienced players ~ n**bs unhappy, breaking our rules at the same time).

Becouse of the imported rules, becouse it's the best tactic to play as US and take Airfield. Any other player with brains is doing the same thing to me and everyone else on the server if its not me it will be someone else ALWAYS, so this point is just invalid, sorry.

auto-admin itselft kicking you ...

... oh and the redline as well, which should have resulted in a permanent ban already

This is all ture, but it's the past. You can't pull up old logs on a player for old mistakes becouse of imported radical rules noone knows about in the beggining, it takes time to adjust to them, that's just wrong. I can dig up 40+ players baserape and be all in youre face perm. ban stuff, but thats not what I want this to be.

How about consider perm. banning only cheaters/glichers and tk/baserape gets temp bans 24h - 168h. +Autokick after 2nd br kill+admin online kick after 1st br.


This works a lot better, players will get more time to adjust to imported rules, server will have more players online, more people in the forums becouse of the traffic created to post about the ban etc. community growth. Or stay as you are, duck everyone else if they can't obey the rules since day 1 and perm ban all players eventually.

Shark it's like all thoes referenes you get are a waste and the people just go to other servers where admins don't bother them as much. I know it's fun to play with code, but people are just not used to random rules, like that and they need time to adjust to them. All your effort and referances just go waste, Shark, cant you see? It's like player =W= Phyxius said: Ohh, I forgot the rules. Ok... so what can you do.. die again ok, nah play US side better. I have 40+ screens of players breaking rules even some LS players even common players 2x - 3x do you really want me to make 40 topics to perm. ban them? I don't think so.


I vote for 1 week vacation for RoHs.

Pros. More people in server over time. More traffic to website/forum. Community growth.
Cons. Same angry people, very slow growth or no growth depending on admins emotions.

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[LS] Rangers
22.10.2018, 21:39  Homepage

Boby445 wrote:

ehh, Shark you taking this one for the team are you amused

And what if I did? http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji848.png Is it going to change the list of your infractions?

Moving on, we are not present in the server 24/7; that is why we rely on player reports (like it just happened with 16Sh0ts, no?) and on our admins' feedback when they are playing (we talk to each other, naturally smile).

What do you mean by "imported rules"? I don't get it; our rules have always been like that regarding attacking grounded aircraft (while piloting a jet) and baseraping (the USMC carrier).

Boby445 wrote:

I have 40+ screens of players breaking rules even some LS players even common players 2x - 3x do you really want me to make 40 topics to perm. ban them? I don't think so.

Mind you: I am not saying you should, I am saying you could! http://i.imgur.com/8BRU9RL.png

As I said we cannot be monitoring our servers 24/7, that is just impossible. If a player reports another one though, bringing his infractions' to our attention through the Forum with proofs, our admins can rely on those informations and act accordingly in-game issuing the most appropriate action (for example let's take 16Sh0ts' case since you're the one who reported him: our admins are now informed that they don't have to go easy on him and can escalate to an immediate temporary ban).

Thank you for your insight on our Community, we do appreciate each and every feedback as long as it is constructive (and yours is, in its way); but we do prefer a slow-growing Community with a healthy environment rather than a fast-paced one with a more toxic one. smile Finally, nice try but you cannot vote regarding your ban's length; that will be up to us to decide and we will be discussing this internally. http://twemoji.maxcdn.com/16x16/1f607.png

Best regards, feel free to reply further (this applies to anybody reading this thread, Staff Members and not), and as you say, take your time to finally fully "adjust" to our rules (but outside of our servers): Wake Island Server Rules (if something is not clear regarding the rules, please add a reply in the rule's thread, not here).

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[LS] Rangers
22.10.2018, 22:47 

Can't believe how much time and effort Italy S_h_a_r_k_93 and others have put into respond to long essays of drivel and nonsense from you.

Stop trying to talk your way out of your ban, to have a chance of doing that you would actually need to make valid points that have some logic to them / make sense.

When you start a successful Community from nothing yourself and grow it like we have, then you might be in a position to dish out advice to others on that. Until then, shut it - i literally couldn't give a fuck what you think on that subject and it has nothing to do with your ban applause

If i have to read anymore of your trash i will be inclined to vote more severely for wasting our time.

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Senior Aircraftman
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Enlisted On: 12.05.2018


23.10.2018, 09:01 

5tarLine wrote:

When you start a successful Community from nothing yourself and grow it like we have, then you might be in a position to dish out advice to others on that.


We had our piece of pie back in 2010 - 2013.
http://sudrabalodes.clan.su/index/0-2

Most data is gone on forum and stats, but somehow some data of the clan website is still online, but inactive and abandoned. Had one private server didn't requare the orginal CD-Key, only download BF2 + 1.5 Patch + Punkbuster to play. Had all maps rotation 2 rounds each with 300 tickets with vote map options + commander resign vote. 64/64 on server was a standard after working hours/weekends. After 3 years the main adimn shut the project down, removed the data from url and added a redirection to a different url for internet provider service.
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[LS] Rangers
23.10.2018, 19:03 

Boby445 wrote:


We had our piece of pie back in 2010 - 2013.
http://sudrabalodes.clan.su/index/0-2

Most data is gone on forum and stats, but somehow some data of the clan website is still online, but inactive and abandoned. Had one private server didn't requare the orginal CD-Key, only download BF2 + 1.5 Patch + Punkbuster to play. Had all maps rotation 2 rounds each with 300 tickets with vote map options + commander resign vote. 64/64 on server was a standard after working hours/weekends. After 3 years the main adimn shut the project down, removed the data from url and added a redirection to a different url for internet provider service.


You seem to think you have an answer to everything but this just seems like desperation to me and you are sidelining your own appeal. So you were a small piece of pie at a time when GameSpy was still online and the population was far higher than today. You weren't a "main admin" - so how much responsibility can you claim for this project on a personal level i wonder. Whether what you say is true or not, we were born after the GameSpy era and are still going, doing just fine without needing any help or advice from someone who abuses our Servers whenever he thinks no one is looking.

Do you realise how ironic it is to come here and try and give us advice on filling BF2 Servers when the way you abuse players and break rules in them directly causes them to empty? Do you realise how silly you sound doing this? Or how childish your responses sound in general? Or your delusion that you have some kind of worth to us or authority here? Or even how much we love wasting our time on these matters...

Cut the bullshit.

Anymore comments that detract from the reason you are here appealing will be deleted and will delay your appeal process severely.

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23.10.2018, 21:01 

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, this usualy happens becouse I have a hard time accepting other people's opinions.

You're right, I'll cut the bullshit. I rest my case.
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[LS] Rangers
24.10.2018, 09:33 

Boby445 wrote:

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, this usualy happens becouse I have a hard time accepting other people's opinions.

You're right, I'll cut the bullshit. I rest my case.


That sounds more sensible and now thankfully i can stop sidelining your ban appeal myself with unrelated content in response!

Your case will be discussed internally and when we have decided on the course of action we're going to take here we will let you know.

In the mean time if you do wish to supply any missing information or additional evidence to support your appeal feel free to in this topic - just keep it factual and relevant to why you are banned or should be unbanned.

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Senior Aircraftman
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Enlisted On: 12.05.2018


24.10.2018, 15:14 

The story of what happened can be found here, I'll just copy/paste one paragraph of it.

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Player 16Sh0tS was raping the carrier with the J10. He's been on the server for a while now so idk why he was raping, but after the 1st time(no screenshot) I told him via chat to not rape carrier, but he didn't listen. He killed me again on carrier with J10(have screenshot). When I got into the F35 he would attack by launchig one rocket to reduce F35 armor to 50%, so I had to jump out expecting that he will go all the way for the kill on carrier F35 spawnpoint. This happened I think 3 times unti he died. Then I got into the F35 and killed him when he jumped into the J10 to show him he's own unsportsmanlike conduct and got banned. If anything myself and 16Sh0tS should get temp. banned for unsportsmanlike conduct.
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I did a little investigation today and was watching the last demo in the COMMUNITY TAB. One round before I got banned. You can see in the demo that player 16Sh0tS was getting mad already with all that jumping around and launching SRAW's everywhere. Probably got fustrated becouse of he's team mates playing cards on carrier.
Demo can be downloaded here.


He rams a tank with an F35 on the island making the tank fly down the cliff lol, then destroys an empty Cobra on the carrier with 2 shots of SRAW's while there are other players nearby on carrier and soon after that teamkills a team member by launching 3x SRAW's to a Blackhawk when team mates are close to it and then SRAW's another team mate replacing him from the top deck of carrier one floor lower lol. Somewhere of all that I go afk becouse it's booring. Then he attempts twice to displace the team member off the carrier completely in the water...

just for entertainment - fun fact - he's F35 got hit by a China tank 3 times in this round, first hit didn't register, second one did some damage, the third one killed him amused he must be going crazy by now, geezees. At this point I come back from afk and switch teams. China has player ThanosZ(top14) and player ladicek-CZ (Lieutenant Colonel rank) and all island flags so I'll have something to do now... before round ends he gets killed by FAV by ThanosZ while in F35 and teamkills 2 more people with SRAW on the carrier. What an unlucky day.

No wonder he started to baserape me on the carrier next round amused the guy was totally mad. I was busy with other players minding my own business, we even played the same team late round only had a couple kills on him at the start of round, player Nortel was doing a good job killing him consistently to not let hm close to the China flags.

Let's cap it up... this guy goes crazy with:

1x jet ram
1x destroyed empty cobra on spawnpoint
2x destroyed Blackhawk's on carrier
1x team member displacement by SRAW off carrier deck
2x attempts for team member displacement by SRAW
3x teamkills

this is what happened one round before he started baserape I responded with baserape to him and got banned. That's why I told Germany Dillmann that it was between of two of us not general server abuse at least not on my side. Imagine me being Batman deffending Gotham city from the Joker.

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[LS] Rangers
24.10.2018, 19:17  Homepage

Ok so ... are you trying to appeal 16Sh0ts' ban here, or yours? smile Anyways, for your information Germany Dillmann actually attempted to kick the guy for persistent rule breaking after the round in which you were banned.

Boby445 wrote:

Imagine me being Batman deffending Gotham city from the Joker.

I'd rather not imagine that, no. amused You don't fight fire with fire here. In other words two wrongs don't make a right: yours is not a valid excuse for you to start breaking the rules as well.

What you do in those situations is to either use the +r command in-game, you collect proof and fill a player report later, or alert a staff member through our Discord Server if you really want to.

Ergo you can go on and on about who raped the most between you and 16Sh0ts but it's not helping your ban appeal: the case was handled correctly as you are both banned for persistent rule breaking now. Happy? smile

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Senior Aircraftman
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Enlisted On: 12.05.2018


24.10.2018, 19:31 

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

Ok so ... are you trying to appeal 16Sh0ts' ban here, or yours?

This investigation makes me look like an Angel amused

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

What you do in those situations is to either use the +r command in-game, you collect proof and fill a player report later, or alert a staff member through our Discord Server if you really want to.

Right, forgot about the +r command, that would have been a good idea.
I'll be the +r command guy then.
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