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[LS] Rangers
09.05.2017, 09:29 

If it still occurs with a new GPU then it could be that the Motherboard is damaged or the PCI-E slot.

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[LS] Rangers
09.05.2017, 16:28 

The strange thing is that it just happens with Nvidia Graphics cards. It is a problem with the Nvidia graphics driver. ATI cards work fine without crashes. We think there was a problem with the windows upgrade last year because rhe problems occur since the upgrade
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[LS] Rangers
09.05.2017, 17:03 

Yes, we tested it with a Radeon 5470 and it ran without a problem for a whole week, I suppose some dlls or other system files got damaged with the update. To locate this is too time consuming so a clean reinstallation would be the best solution.
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09.05.2017, 20:01  Homepage

TAN TAN TAN TAAAAAN!! Laugh
https://www.lost-soldi...;type=ASC&page=2#5321

Somehow though I am not too confident anymore that this will solve the issue,
but it's a necessary step to try.

As always, let us know guys,
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[LS] Rangers
10.05.2017, 01:01 

We will work on it on friday. I will upgrade the computer with a SSD hard drive. Seems like Shark was right smiling
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11.05.2017, 12:53 

WAIT DO NOT RELOASD WINDOWS 10 .. HOPE ThIS will do the trick !!!!Windows 10 NEEDS 3-4 UPDATES to run at it's Best... THAT MAYBE THE REASON Your dill's are not right.. Put that ATI card back in for (till you get the updates Of maybe you can download the updates faster... Then put the Better NI.. card back in with the driver update... Maybe I thought it was the fix ???.. Great luck anyway...
THEN MAYBE the windows will put the right (what ever) where the dill's got to be???
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[LS] Rangers
24.05.2017, 12:22 

So after many months of my very intricate PC crash issue and many hours of arduous work to solve it, I'm going to summarize our measures and deliver an update of our progress:

1) We exchanged the old 650 W power adapter with a new 600 W power adapter.

This step was necessary because a sporadcic loss of power that lead to immediate PC shutdown. After some weeks we weren't even able to boot the PC, because the power adapter refused to supply energy.

Due to this measure we an conclude that the remaining issue of frozen screens (that always lead to a irreversible black monitor and sometimes to bluescreens) is not caused by the power adapter.


2) We reinstalled the Nvidia graphics driver


The bluescreen showed the error message: "nvlmddmkm.sys", which leads us to the Nvidia graphics driver. We found that the Nvidia graphics driver always crashed immediately before the frozen screens,
so we reinstalled the most recent driver clean a couple of times in protected mode and with your recommended tools.

This measure had no effect unfortunately.

3) We exchanged an old broken cooler with a new one

We monitored the temperature of all hardware components with speedfan. Due to a broken cooler the GPU and CPU temperature was a little higher beneath a burden with round about 70° C.
The new cooler lead to a significant decrease of temperature with 55° C.

Nevertheless there was no effect in frequency of crashes, the issue remained, so we can conclude that the issue is not caused by a heat problem.
Moreover we inspected and cleaned all components; we could exclude a dust problem.

4) We exchanged the graphics card.

A few weeks ago my old graphics card GTX 260 finally died. It was not possible to boot the Nvidia graphics driver any longer; there were screen distortions even in BIOS screen.

We exchanged the graphics card temporary for 2 weeks with an shitty ATI Radeon 5450. However, that measure finally worked, there were no further crashes in that period,
so we concluded that the broken graphics card must be the culprit for the frozen screens.

So I bought a brand new Nvidia GTX 1060, funnily enough the issue continued. Right a few minutes after integration the screen freezed with a bluescreen; error message: "nvlmddmkm.sys"

5) We exchanged the hard drive with a SSD

We conducted a memory (RAM) and a hard drive test with your recommended tool. All tests were normal, there were no issue found on the hard drive or memory, they seemed to be in a good shape.
Nevertheless it took 5-10 minutes to reboot the PC again after each crash, sometimes even the normal Windows desktop was not loaded with the message: "Windows is beeing prepared".

To speed up the PC I bought a 500 GB SSD. I can only recommend to buy a SSD; it was the best investment I've ever made in hardware, I'm on my desktop in less than 30 seconds now.

6) We reinstalled Windows 10 completely.

Since the issue started in April 2016 right after the update from Win 7 to Win 10, we concluded that something went wrong with the software update. This idea was supported by the observation,
that the ATI graphics driver worked, but the Nvidia graphics driver crashed (strangely).

So parallel to the integration of the SSD we reinstalled Windows 10 on the SSD.

Nevertheless the frozen screens (leading to a black monitor) remained, but there were no longer bluescreens. Even in event viever there were no longer entries that shows that the Nvidia graphics driver crashed.
I recieved 1 bluescreen once; that one differed from the others because it showed the Error: "VIDEO SCHEDULER INTERNAL ERROR"

So we can definitively conclude now, that the issue is not caused by the hard drive or a wrong Windows 10 installation.

7) Ultima ratio I decided to purchase a new mainboard, processor and memory.

The only remainig reason could be a broken mainboard, so I decided to replace my 10 year old components (ASUS P5N-E SLI mainboard, Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 2 x 3,16 GHz and 4 GB DDR2 RAM).

The new components will be the MSI B350 Tomahawk mainboard, together with the AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (6 x 3,2 GHZ) processor and a new 8 GB DDR4 RAM.

I will receive and install the new components this weekend.


Lets hope that the issue will be solved then amused (If not I'm out of ideas; then you can feel free to write a doctor's thesis about that issue!)




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24.05.2017, 13:53 

Can I ask How much your into this computer as of now with all your replacements?? Take a look at these machines on ebay ...Dell T5500 Workstation 2x E5540 2.5GHz for around 250.00 U.S. There Power houses and you can upgrade the cpu's in a year or three and get the cpu's dirt cheap.
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[LS] Rangers
24.05.2017, 14:59  Homepage

this may sound daft, but have you tried a different monitor.and leads?
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[LS] Rangers
24.05.2017, 15:43 

@ jostotest:
sry I skipped this information:
We tried two different monitors; the issue happens with both monitors:

1) Targa visionary LCD 19-3 (19"; 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz)
2) Samsung SyncMaster T220 (22"; 1680 x 1050 @ 60 Hz)


@ 1Armblindman
All components together cost ~ 940 €

These components were selected because of future safety, good quality, great performance and the best cost-benefit-ratio.
They deliver enough performance to play most current games in max. details and Full HD with at least 60 FPS and they are very economical since they need very few power.

They are good enough to deliver an acceptable performance the next 5 years, probably much longer

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