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Sergeant
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09.12.2016, 19:00 

SW03_Carbon wrote:

In my opinion it isn't a good idea to modify the gameplay on the map. Please do not alter the soldiers endurance. The airfield should stay capable as well. I experienced hundreds of epic fights around the airfield, it is a critical part of the map. It is a key component of Team China, and they should bloody defend or fight to get it back. There is no imbalance on the map Wake Island. The only imbalance occurs if one team shits on teamplay or if there are too many pros in one team vs to many noobs in the other team. Teamstacking is the real problem.


(...Although it was not the worst thing on Weekend Warriors to deactivate the USMC attack chopper respawn after its destruction as long as team USMC holds the airfield. If anything is going to be changed, than this could be one possible reasonable thing to increase team Chinas chance to avoid hopeless rape...)


Well said.
Corporal
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13.12.2016, 17:57 

This is exactly why I don't think it's fair to have the carrier protected from all attacks and arty, while having airfield open to all attacks, even arty (except spawned jet). Commanders arty the (heli)pad constantly, making it impossible to start flying. The heli spawns slow on this map (on gulf it's way faster, weird) so by the time it spawns, commander has new arty. On top of that, USMC heli can rape the hell out of the spawning heli from a far distance wide. It would be even more logical to allow rape on the carrier, since they have the way stronger ESSEX vs. that stinger on airfield. Anyways, if you don't want to make it uncap, okay, but at least have some balanced protection regarding the "untouchable" status from the carrier implimented by the rules.

Anyways, that's my opinion, open for reasoning amused

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[LS] Rangers
13.12.2016, 18:05 

You can always just take a tank and block the heli from spawning until arty is over .. problem solved.
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[LS] Rangers
13.12.2016, 18:21 

Or go destroy the artillery. We wont be changing anything like this but feel free to discuss all you like.

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[LS] Rangers
13.12.2016, 20:13  Homepage

"You can always just take a tank and block the heli from spawning until arty is over .. problem solved."
Well but that may get you killed either way, right? amused

Perhaps it would be helpful to set up a rule against artillering the heli pads and the Jet spawn? Cause the US spawns are on the carirer ... the carrier is protected from arty ... as a consequence the spawns are protected too.

Shouldn't China have such protections over Heli / Jet spawns as well, at the least?
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[LS] Rangers
13.12.2016, 21:33 

Ahhh know I understand what you meant ingame with "yet you said you dont agree"...sry mate, i couldn't read your previous message because you were dead, while I was alive at this moment.
Now I can answer correctly: Yes, that seems unfair at first sight, but like Denmark Kaasentra and 5tarLine mentioned, there are always counter measures. Moreover your jets should focus on enemy jets and attack choppers first. I see a lot of players in friendly jets bombing some petty infantry or cars on the ground while there are much bigger threats in the air.
Use the IGLAs as Team China against the more powerful F35, I can guarantee you there is nothing more annoying, even for the best F35 jet pilot, than one J10 and 1 or 2 IGLAs.
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[LS] Rangers
14.12.2016, 01:03 

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:


Perhaps it would be helpful to set up a rule against artillering the heli pads and the Jet spawn? Cause the US spawns are on the carirer ... the carrier is protected from arty ... as a consequence the spawns are protected too.

Shouldn't China have such protections over Heli / Jet spawns as well, at the least?


No, Airfield is not a fixed base and the Chinese start with 5 capped bases... Take a jet and bomb the artillery or go Spec Ops and C4 it if you need to get the chopper up.

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17.12.2016, 16:04 

Starline you need to visit the server more often amused its great to have those kind of ideas how to balance it out, but in reality the server is unbalanced 95% of the time on Wake amused But anyways, it was just an idea and you people are in charge so the server stays the way it is, understood

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[LS] Rangers
17.12.2016, 18:48 

Belgero wrote:

Starline you need to visit the server more often amused its great to have those kind of ideas how to balance it out, but in reality the server is unbalanced 95% of the time on Wake amused But anyways, it was just an idea and you people are in charge so the server stays the way it is, understood


I've undoubtedly spent more time playing on our servers (particularly Wake) than anyone else full stop. Just been busy with work the last few weeks so haven't had a chance to play barely at all, some of us have to fund this place.

Your definition of unbalanced is not the same as mine, different levels of skill/ability on each team is just how it goes, you can't enforce rules on that. Providing the number of players on each team is not totally unbalanced then it's fine. You can't have really close rounds and very even teams skill-wise every round, that's just not realistic. In any case, I didn't think this topic was about balance.

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Enlisted On: 13.11.2016


18.12.2016, 10:22 

5tarLine wrote:

[quote=Belgero]Starline you need to visit the server more often amused its great to have those kind of ideas how to balance it out, but in reality the server is unbalanced 95% of the time on Wake amused But anyways, it was just an idea and you people are in charge so the server stays the way it is, understood


I've undoubtedly spent more time playing on our servers (particularly Wake) than anyone else full stop. Just been busy with work the last few weeks so haven't had a chance to play barely at all, some of us have to fund this place.

Your definition of unbalanced is not the same as mine, different levels of skill/ability on each team is just how it goes, you can't enforce rules on that. Providing the number of players on each team is not totally unbalanced then it's fine. You can't have really close rounds and very even teams skill-wise every round, that's just not realistic. In any case, I didn't think this topic was about balance.


Oh okay didnt know you used to play alot, sorry.

It was about the aircrafts and then capturable airfield/untouchable carrier amused community discussions can go everywhere amused

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