| Report Cheaters / Problem Players • OPEN: Umadlol - Redlining |
| 31.01.2017, 21:04 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
He was redlining DanielxPompa, he made a report, I checked the map and indeed saw him at the end of the map with Daniel in the heli (flew to it with jet). Was stupid not to take a screen of the map itself... I hope I will be believed on my word and that of DanielxPompa. Kicked him, but if I'm not wrong redlining is immediate ban.  https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 31.01.2017, 21:43 - DanielxPompa - Leading Aircraftman - 3 Posts
I confirm that |
| 04.02.2017, 14:28 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
@5tarLine https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 04.02.2017, 16:09 - Kuhni - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 53 Posts
This screenshot proves nothing  |
| 04.02.2017, 17:19 - EYELESS - Sergeant - 486 Posts
Lol wtf? Where is the proof? Because Daniel writes he confirmes that, 'umadlol' should be banned? |
| 04.02.2017, 18:03 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
No, because an admin says so, confirmed by another member. I saw the report (screenshot) and I went with my jet to the chopper. Umadlol said daniel was making fake reports, so I went with my jet to the heli at the end of the map. I saw it was him at the pilot seat. I dont know how to check battlerecorders - if you dont believe me and daniel I guess the video can be replayed? I immediately went to the forum after the redlining, so date and time is pretty exact. https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
04.02.2017, 18:05 - Kuhni - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 53 Posts
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| 04.02.2017, 18:28 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Especially for you I will try to figure out this battlerecorder and review stuff, had to happen anytime soon either way. Will try to do that asap, dont have much time this weekend but if it's possible to review that game and hopefully I can find some decent software (battlerecorder is max 3x speed and the game took hours), I will make a video  https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 04.02.2017, 19:05 - Kaasentra - Junior Technician - 103 Posts
So you took a screenshot of daniels report but not a screenshot of the heli at the redline with umadlols name appearing? .... Kuhni already said it. Your screenshot proves nothing. |
| 04.02.2017, 20:00 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
This program takes my video's ,its free, upload to You tube http://plays.tv/home |
| 05.02.2017, 09:13 - RemyBE - Senior Aircraftman - 23 Posts
@Kuhni & @Kaasentra I know I'm no LS-member, and I know you guys aren't either... I don't think people need your opinion here, as you are not to decide whether the proof is good or not... Please leave this topic to the LS-members, and if you have a remark you could just give it in a neutral way. Not like you just did because that's just rude in my opinion! Rgrds Remy |
| 05.02.2017, 09:24 - RemyBE - Senior Aircraftman - 23 Posts
Aside my post above, I'd like to add one more remark! I think an admin should not be "punished" because he tries to do his job... @Belgero was doing his duty, trying to get some justice on the LS-server (like all admins should do?). So if someone is getting reported by an admin, please respect their reports! Otherwise being admin is a shitjob, they won't report anymore and servers will become chaotic. That's not what we want I guess, so please stop doing this stuff... Admins deserve respect for what they do. AND I'm sure an admin will not report someone, just because he/she likes to. |
| 05.02.2017, 09:26 - 1ARMBLINDMAN - Corporal - 211 Posts
They sure do back one another !! I asked if they where married I'm waiting to hear back.. In the U.S some states let you now was wondering about England. |
| 05.02.2017, 09:29 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Lol tx @RemyBE  I asked him to marry me, he said no  Like I said im really busy this weekend but ill try to check battlelogs functions asap, tried to review it but its hours and max 300% speed... The day I make fake reports, LS has to start worrying cause 70% of reports are from me i always have a pic to prove it, once i dont and people question my integrity https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 05.02.2017, 09:38 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
Well Said RemBE I would also like to take the opportunity to thank DanielxPompa for taking the time and trouble to come to the forum in support of Belgero. As Remy says, he is a full member of LS a Ranger, and an admin,He gives his time and support to this community, and should not be put in this position by Non- members. The decision as to whether or not he was right or wrong, is for the officers to decide, They are not stupid, and will, in their own time, look at the evidence, and act accordingly. |
| 05.02.2017, 12:36 - EYELESS - Sergeant - 486 Posts
In my opinion this is kinda useless thread if you don't post here battlerecorder clip or your own demonstrable proof. Because if this topic see more guests, they come up here and will be reporting without any evidence just like this. No offense, just saying. The proof is the main thing of every report if you're asking for a ban. |
| 05.02.2017, 13:39 - Kuhni - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 53 Posts
Thats so hard and do so much trouble to come on an Website I know your feelings josto..  |
| 05.02.2017, 13:43 - Kuhni - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 53 Posts
He only posted an screenshot wich shows an player ( DanielxPompa) who reports anything doesnt matter what. Believe... the admins can see the reports in a list or something else they dont need an screenshot of the report and I reall cant understand if you really flew to the redlining couple how is it possible to "forget" making a screenshot of it noooo you make an screenshot of the report thats just ... dont know that dont make any sense |
| 05.02.2017, 16:33 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
I'm not sure why everyone is being quite so argumentative with each other about such minor things. Belgero isn't exactly going to lie about this. 1) What would be the point? 2) Why would he put his account at risk here by doing so? 3) What would he gain from it? The question I have is did Umadlol complete the Redline? Did the Gunner die? [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 05.02.2017, 18:06 - RemyBE - Senior Aircraftman - 23 Posts
@5tarLine Tx for your good approach on this! That's what I thought exactly when I read this threats, that's why I replied. |
| 05.02.2017, 20:40 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Thanks 5tarLine No he didn't die, DanielxPompa reported, umadlol saw this and said "fake report" so I went to check it out, then he quickly flew back to the airfield as soon as he saw me coming with my jet. He didn't have enough time to complete the redlining. https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 05.02.2017, 21:23 - EYELESS - Sergeant - 486 Posts
No one said or thought that Belgero is lying. |
| 06.02.2017, 19:14 - Kuhni - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 53 Posts
So why are you still talking about that? He didnt die --->No redline |
| 06.02.2017, 22:25 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
So if a player notices he will get redlined and jumps into the sea to prevent getting killed, the pilot shouldnt get punished? If someone C4's teammates but they fall into the sea instead of dying, he shouldn't be kicked? Thank god you're no admin. Ps: thanks for deleting the rest of the explanation. 100% trusthworthy reply there https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 07.02.2017, 11:43 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
If a person buys a gun, walks up to someone, holds the gun up to their head but doesn't pull the trigger, you can't prosecute them for murder. If the player doesn't die then it's not a Redline, it's an Attempted/Failed Redline. It's still lame to attempt it in the first place but I'm not going to add a Ban for this. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 07.02.2017, 11:51 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
WellI couldn't agree less Redlining is redlining, if you fail at it you still broke the rules. Why award the attempt?Next time I'll wait for the person to die, but imo it's not logical. I'll say as an admin the moment i get a report and see it "sorry bro, wait 15 seconds and come back to me when you're dead" Also, makes reporting way harder. You cant add a pic of heli flying at the border of the map, you have to film the actual dying too... Ps: me and remy got yelled at back in november for redlining and C4'ing, no one said then "leave them alone, the redline didnt work and the C4 didnt kill him/push him off carrier" https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 07.02.2017, 12:01 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
It's one thing banning someone there and then/on the spot for attempting it but I'm not going to add a retrospective ban when it wasn't a Redline, it was technically an Attempted Redline. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 07.02.2017, 12:03 - EYELESS - Sergeant - 486 Posts
I agree. An Attempted Redline should be punished as well. |
| 07.02.2017, 12:08 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Yeah he should be punished, the question is to what extent. Maybe  S_h_a_r_k_93 or  Rico946 will have a suggestion on this. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 07.02.2017, 12:16 - cataly63 - Sergeant - 438 Posts
hum ! It will seem ridiculous but what is i"redlining"? Can someone explain? My English is really not famous; [table][tr][td][align=center][size=3][b]Follow me on Fb, YT and ModDB![/b][/size] [url=https://facebook.com/cataly.lostsoldiers][nor]https://i.imgur.com/6LX2wFm.png[/nor][/url] [url=https://youtube.com/channel/UCGXUW6wjikF9sg8fTCG3d9A/videos][nor]https://i.imgur.com/ZqhFklv.png[/nor][/url] [url=https://moddb.com/members/cataly63][nor]https://i.imgur.com/rC0GkkL.png[/nor][/url][/align][/td][td] [/td][td][url=https://youtu.be/vdHBsWXaHN8][nor]https://i.imgur.com/SZ0Nia9.gif[/nor][/url][/td][/tr][/table] |
| 07.02.2017, 12:23 - EYELESS - Sergeant - 486 Posts
When you are trying to kill your gunner in chopper by flying to a RED LINE (end of map). |
| 07.02.2017, 12:24 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Pretty much what EYELESS said. The pilot uses the out-of-bounds zone and positions the gunner who is slightly in front of him within this zone/outside of the "combat area", so the gunner dies and he has the vehicle to himself. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 07.02.2017, 16:32 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
No no eye... trying is not enough.. he must be dead... remember? oh the ironyNo but kidding aside, im glad that he will be punished, ban is debatable, open to discussion for everyone on the forum as I said, hes only kicked! https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 07.02.2017, 16:45 - EYELESS - Sergeant - 486 Posts
Oh yeah, I forgot that, sorry |
| 07.02.2017, 16:50 - Kuhni - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 53 Posts
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| 07.02.2017, 17:16 - cataly63 - Sergeant - 438 Posts
unbelievable ! So there are guys who do that? Completely stupid!  But in this case, to survive, beter to be medic, right ?! not the gunner........i must try that  thanks for these lighnings Eyeless, Belgero, 5tarLine. [table][tr][td][align=center][size=3][b]Follow me on Fb, YT and ModDB![/b][/size] [url=https://facebook.com/cataly.lostsoldiers][nor]https://i.imgur.com/6LX2wFm.png[/nor][/url] [url=https://youtube.com/channel/UCGXUW6wjikF9sg8fTCG3d9A/videos][nor]https://i.imgur.com/ZqhFklv.png[/nor][/url] [url=https://moddb.com/members/cataly63][nor]https://i.imgur.com/rC0GkkL.png[/nor][/url][/align][/td][td] [/td][td][url=https://youtu.be/vdHBsWXaHN8][nor]https://i.imgur.com/SZ0Nia9.gif[/nor][/url][/td][/tr][/table] |
| 07.02.2017, 18:31 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Yes, a lot of players do that to fly alone in a chopper. As a chopper enthusiast myself, it does get annoying that you have to fly with absolute noobs that dont even know that you can use the TV. I dont mind teaching them and giving them the time to learn, but when there's a pro heli/jet in the other team, you die constantly. Im patient, but after 7-8 instant deaths with the same gunner I too get annoyed The same goes when you want to fly with a friend and another player constantly jumps in and after 30 minutes waiting you still cant fly together I get the frustration, but redlining is not acceptable. I just hop out of the heli and go do something else, or switch servers if necessaly. Other players prefer the easy method and just redline the gunner out. Young and naive belgero tried that before on ruleless servers and it ended up with me dying aswell i wasnt born to be a redliner anyways, mature belgero just accepts the fact that you cant decide to fly alone or with a friend even if youve waited long as fuck. Redlining should be banned, its absolutely asocial and childish behavior. If you accept it, its even more frustrating towards all players Being a medic would help BUT you will heal the other one too i think https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 07.02.2017, 18:39 - Kaasentra - Junior Technician - 103 Posts
"Being a medic would help BUT you will heal the other one too i think" Correct, he will eventually die though |