BF2 #1 - Wake Islandmod Wake Island


15.01.2017, 15:25 - RemyBE - Senior Aircraftman - 23 Posts
Hey guys!

I used to own a server with Belgero, and we modded the wake island with airfield as uncap.
This was some serious fun, as the USMC team tends to win all the time on that map.
Is it possible to mod wake island like this pls? happy

Kind regards
Remy
 
15.01.2017, 15:30 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
No:
1) I don't like the idea.
2) Battlelog wouldn't allow it for ranked servers, even if I did want to.

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15.01.2017, 15:44 - RemyBE - Senior Aircraftman - 23 Posts
@ 1) OK! smiling
@ 2) Didn't know there were any guidelines on this kind off things!
Tx for immediate reply
 
15.01.2017, 16:43 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
I posted about it before remy amused a lot of players were against it too

https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943

 
15.01.2017, 17:00 - RemyBE - Senior Aircraftman - 23 Posts
oh, ok Belgero
 
17.01.2017, 20:07 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5351 Posts
Well, on a Ranked Server this is not possible; we would lose our Ranked status. unhappy But! I wanted to say that it's not true that USA wins everytime on Wake! Laugh Depends on how strong they are, and how strong the defending China Team is! That's the fun part on Wake Island I guess.

I get it that it would be more even if Airfield was uncappable, but that's not the point of the map, how the original Developers designed it. Does anybody know if there are China uncappable flags in other Battlefield games, on the Wake Island map?

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17.01.2017, 20:29 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
In BF3 it is capable, too

 
17.01.2017, 20:58 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5351 Posts
Was thinking more on old games such as Battlefield 1942; but yeah, that's an additional information too. Thanks buddy!

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18.01.2017, 08:06 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
I know this will be unpopular, but on WW (not WW server), We had :-
no attacking last flag with aircraft ,move in,and take the flag,This gave ground troops a chance to break out,instead of just hiding from the last flag raping.I see a lot of people don't bother to respawn,
 
18.01.2017, 08:18 - EYELESS - Sergeant - 486 Posts
jostotest wrote:

I know this will be unpopular, but on WW (not WW server), We had :-
no attacking last flag with aircraft ,move in,and take the flag,This gave ground troops a chance to break out,instead of just hiding from the last flag raping.I see a lot of people don't bother to respawn,


Agreed.
 
18.01.2017, 15:16 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
EYELESS wrote:

[quote=jostotest]I know this will be unpopular, but on WW (not WW server), We had :-
no attacking last flag with aircraft ,move in,and take the flag,This gave ground troops a chance to break out,instead of just hiding from the last flag raping.I see a lot of people don't bother to respawn,


Agreed.


Could indeed help against the remark i gave before about rapung china airfield.

Interesting idea...

However, difficult to enforce i think, lots lf players will break this rule unhappy

https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943

 
18.01.2017, 16:11 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
As I said we used on WW me had no trouble, as people get the message in the end, It's quite good fun cos all the ground troops have to fight it out
 
18.01.2017, 20:50 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5351 Posts
Not a bad idea actually.
Which message are you talking about?
Automated message?

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18.01.2017, 21:01 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
I think he means the general idea of not attacking that base in that circomstance

https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943

 
19.01.2017, 08:07 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
Yes,regular players get to know that they will get warned kicked if they attack last flag, and some get out/bale to help take the flag.we also had tanks must not stand off and rape the flag, they also had to move in and take the flag,So you end up with all the attacking force trying to dive in and get that flag , it's lots of fun
 
20.01.2017, 07:17 - cataly63 - Sergeant - 438 Posts
...I know this will be unpopular, but on WW (not WW server), We had :-
no attacking last flag with aircraft ,move in,and take the flag,This gave ground troops a chance to break out,instead of just hiding from the last flag raping.I see a lot of people don't bother to respawn,....


While waiting for this kind of improvement, we see that when we have few players on wake, it is better to be in an air vehicle: on the ground, the players have no chance to hold a flag for long: the only solution , Scatter as much as possible on the map, and quickly, once the flag taken: a squad team, in full, has all the chances of being decimated quickly by the aviation: in this situation, there is few possibilities for a good team playing, which I find pity: (but, is it the reason for such a succes like a karkand infantry only? smile): Sometimes I prefer to come back later on the server when there are more players; In this case, with many possible targets, pilots have to make choices, which leaves a little more chance to the infantry, motorized or not !

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20.01.2017, 08:42 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
forgot to mention, we also had no arty on last flag as well.
 
20.01.2017, 10:45 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
cataly123 wrote:

a squad team, in full, has all the chances of being decimated quickly by the aviation: in this situation, there is few possibilities for a good team playing, which I find pity: (but, is it the reason for such a succes like a karkand infantry only? smile)


No mate, the success of karkand infantry only is that you can afford to break your mind: select the support kid, camp in a corner and throw nades continuously...You don't need any skill. (Talking just about 80 % of Karkand inf only players)

Back to the topic:
I think we should not overregulate the gameplay on Wake Island. The rules are great as they are.
If you are getting raped on the last flag and you realize that there is no real chance to escape (for example when kassentra deploys his fat lady), then just stop spawning and force the enemy team to cap the flag and get a new chance next round. It's that easy.

 
20.01.2017, 14:42 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
so as soon a there is just one flag left, we all stop playing !
 
20.01.2017, 16:05 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
That depends on the strength of the enemy team and on the power of your team. If there is a kaasentra in a Blackhawk against you, I would highly recommend to stop spawning, yes.
 
05.05.2017, 01:30 - PolistesFuscatus - Leading Aircraftman - 9 Posts
lol... this thread is VERY familiar to me haha. This was a big deal for me when I played for like 2+ years. We had sooo many discussions about this crap. Give me some time to gather some thoughts about this and get back to here. I can start with this though... it boils down to player count. Low player count = Major USMC advantage. This map does not do well with low player count. If there are ~ 20+ on the server and you lose Airfield, that is your fault. Below that number, as the player count drops, USMC team gains advantage.
 
05.05.2017, 01:32 - PolistesFuscatus - Leading Aircraftman - 9 Posts
It helps to have a few badasses on the server who understand this mechanic and play more fairly to balance the server out instead of just getting major KDR.



EDIT: From the 2 days I have been here so far... 2 players that do this are KissMyGun and Carbon.
 
05.05.2017, 05:55 - 1ARMBLINDMAN - Corporal - 211 Posts
I can start with this though... it boils down to player count. Low player count = Major USMC advantage. This map does not do well with low player count. If there are ~ 20+ on the server and you lose Airfield, that is your fault. Below that number, as the player count drops, USMC team gains advantage.

That is 1 of the reasons Wake Island Is the best dam map with over 50 people ( 25) on a side...I totally Agree with you ..(or it is a death trap) ..Can we get more Team Fights on it with other clans men?? Let's write them and see ( PLEASE ADMIN'S) I am sure most players would back my post !!!!Or the Question is for all.. How can we advertise 1 of our best maps??? that we fill it up from time -2 -time??
 
05.05.2017, 07:15 - cataly63 - Sergeant - 438 Posts
When the imbalance, between the forces, is too great, I do not find this situation very amusing;
Boredom is not far and sometimes I also go to the weakest team in order to open the game.
But, most of the time, it makes the weakest team, even weaker.

LaughLaughLaugh.......

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