| BF2 #1 - Wake Island • RULES: BF2 Server #1 - Wake Island |
| 19.04.2016, 03:31 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
WAKE ISLAND RULES  The main rules are as follows. Players who break these rules will get a warning (unless otherwise specified), before being kicked and eventually a temporary or permanent ban if they continue to break rules. Server Specific Rules & AutoAdmin >> China Do Not Attack The USMC Fixed Base (The Carrier) and its Airspace This Includes No Attacking Jets, Helis, Assets & Essex - unless: --- A Jet may hunt/follow another Jet through Carrier Airspace if dog-fighting or pursuing from prior engagement --- A Jet may hunt/follow a Heli back to the Carrier but must cease engagement when the heli reaches Carrier --- A Heli may hunt/follow a Heli back to the Carrier & continue engagement until one or both is/are destroyed --- Stolen Jets/Helis are not protected and may be attacked by any means, anywhere - by USMC or China >> USMC Jet Pilots Do Not Attack Grounded Aircraft At Airfield - This Includes Both Helis and the J-10's, even if they are empty - The F-18 Is Not Protected, as well as stolen F-35b and stolen AH-1Z / Black Hawk. More detailed informations and examples here. >> Spec Ops May Destroy Assets (Command Center & Radar) On The Carrier But Not Kill/Attack Other Soldiers (Even in Self Defence) >> Commanders Do Not Fly In Jets/Attack Helis >> No Fighting Commanders - Commanders May Defend But Must Do Their Job >> Do Not Artillery The Carrier  Common Server Rules >> No Red Lining (Immediate Ban) >> No Glitching (Immediate Permanent Ban) >> No Stat Padding (Immediate Ban) >> No Cheating / Hacking (Immediate Permanent Ban) >> No Forced Team Killing >> Do Not Force Pickup With Choppers Or Ground Vehicles >> No Intentional Ramming / No Spearing Aircraft >> Do Not C4 Your Team Mates Community Behaviour & Guidelines >> Treat Each Other With Respect >> Do Not Argue With Officers/Staff Officers Or Those Who Help Administrate Our Services >> No Racial, Sexual Or Gender Related Discrimination (Immediate Permanent Ban) >> No Hate-Speeches >> No Pushing Religious Beliefs (Immediate Ban) >> Do Not Recruit Players To A Different Community Or A Clan On Any Of Our Services (Immediate Ban) >> Do Not Criticise Anyone Who Is A Newbie Or Is Not A Skilled Player. Instead Do The Honourable Thing And Try To Help Them Learn/Improve Please Feel Free To Ask Any Questions About The Above Rules If Anything Is Unclear. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 11.12.2016, 12:25 - Steve_Pick - Senior Aircraftman - 22 Posts
It have happen a few times in the jet I fire rockets in a dogfight and he use the flares so the roket find itself another target. Sadly that have the heli or jet on takeoff and I get the warning for spawnkill.. :-/ |
| 11.12.2016, 22:46 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Yep, unfortunately that's not going to be something we can do anything about. Luckily it doesn't happen very often. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 13.12.2016, 10:54 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
Is there a rule about spawn camping?, some people complain about it, |
| 13.12.2016, 11:33 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
Do you mean "Spawncamping" = Raping last flag? There is no rule for that. Every single player is able to avoid that destiny: just stop spawning in if you realise that there is no real chance to escape. Force the enemy to capture the flag. Finish the match and you will get a new chance, next match. I saw lots of player spawning in again and again and again and again...20 deaths, 25 deaths, 30 deaths, 35 deaths ...and complaining and crying a lot. Fair enough. Own fault. And your enemy is grateful for easy kills. |
| 13.12.2016, 11:57 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
Yea I know about that.I stop spawning quite often at last flag, your just cannon fodder. Don't forget the guy who sits at the spawn point just waiting. |
| 22.12.2016, 19:24 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Interesting that I may follow a heli back to carrier.. Did not know this! Will probably get yelled at by other players if I do so, but from now on I won't back down from a heli fight over carrier (once they return to carrier of course)  A bit tricky though to prove that it was a heli fight over water before they returned to carrier... If they take screen, it will look like I attacked them on carrier.. https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 22.12.2016, 20:02 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Once they leave the airspace indicated on the image above you can attack and follow them  [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 24.12.2016, 08:51 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
Belgero says Interesting that I may follow a heli back to carrier.. Did not know this! Will probably get yelled at by other players if I do so, but from now on I won't back down from a heli fight over carrier (once they return to carrier of course) amused A bit tricky though to prove that it was a heli fight over water before they returned to carrier... If they take screen, it will look like I attacked them on carrier.. Just watch out for that guy who sits in the Deck gun pal. lol |
| 24.12.2016, 09:39 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
...who is usually  jostotest xD |
| 24.12.2016, 10:55 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
no, what makes you think that, would I do such a thing. lol |
| 26.12.2016, 18:08 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Hahaha yes it's his first and biggest love https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 31.12.2016, 14:42 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
"Please Feel Free To Ask Any Questions About The Above Rules If Anything Is Unclear." Is there any difference when you write (Immediate Ban) compared to stat padding -> (Immediate Permanent Ban) ? As far as I noticed, unless you change the span of the ban later, we issue permanent bans for racial discrimination as well as red-lining. I think you mean immediate permaban everytime, but perhaps you want us to treat those offences slightly differently than stat padding? Staff Officer  S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 31.12.2016, 15:51 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
I changed some of these recently based on our discussion in the private forum and to prevent confusion. From now on, when we refer to a permanent ban, it means a ban that will remain in place forever with no chance of appealing. Currently that is for stat-padding & cheating. We need to open a new topic in - HQ - to decide on whether anything else should be a permanent ban because we didn't agree on everything, for instance, I personally think racism should be a permanent ban but you suggested that you think people should be given a second chance. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 02.01.2017, 17:33 - ClintS - Junior Technician - 106 Posts
So ive been playing on the Wake Server for a while today and the carrier got artyd several times, leaving us in a bad situation on the USMC Team. I was wondering, isnt there a rule like "Dont arty the Carrier", and actually there is, but still players kept sayin its allowed. Couldnt really say anything. Just leaving this here, admins werent online or i dont know... |
| 02.01.2017, 17:46 - EYELESS - Sergeant - 486 Posts
Of course it's not allowed. Probably admins weren't online, because we are kicking immediately for this. |
| 17.01.2017, 03:43 - sharp - Leading Aircraftman - 6 Posts
Looking for some clarification on these as I may have misunderstood. I was under the impression that once an aircraft had left the deck of the carrier it was fair game unless it returned to the deck of the carrier. If a helo returns to carrier but hasn't landed, is it off limits? |
| 17.01.2017, 15:37 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
I thought I had made this clear enough (at least it is to me) but it seems that it requires a little more explanation. Grounded aircraft include empty vehicles. USMC Pilots In Jets: - Under no circumstances do you ever attack a Chinese J-10 Jet, Z-10 Attack Chopper or Z-8 Transport Chopper when it is on the Runway or Helipad. It doesn't matter if it's just taking off or returning to the Pad or Runway, if it's on the ground in those zones you don't attack it. - Stolen vehicles are not protected, USMC Jet Pilots can attack an F-35b, F-18, AH-1Z or Blackhawk on the ground at Airfield. - There is no Grounded Aircraft Protection for USMC players at Airfield, only Chinese. USMC Pilots In Choppers: - Pretty much free to do as they please, I can't think of any rules for this apart from the standard ones like, no commanders in attack choppers. Chinese Pilots In Jets: - Under no circumstances do you ever attack the USMC Carrier, unless you are retrieving a stolen vehicle. You can attack/destroy a stolen vehicle anywhere. - You do not start attacking USMC Jets, Choppers, Boats, AA or Infantry on the carrier or in the red-zone sphere indidcated on the map-image as 'USMC Airspace'. - You can follow a Jet back to the carrier but you MUST NOT lose the jet during a Dog-Fight/pursuit and go looking for him on or around the carrier and attack him in that zone after. If you attack a Jet on or around the carrier you must have followed him back from outside the zone without losing sight/visuals of him. - You can follow a Chopper back to the carrier and attack it but you must stop attacking it when it reaches the carrier, this means hovering directly over the carrier or on the carrier. If it gets back, you must let it repair and leave the USMC Airspace before attacking it again. Chinese Pilots In Choppers: - Under no circumstances do you ever attack the USMC Carrier, unless you are retrieving a stolen vehicle. You can attack/destroy a stolen vehicle anywhere. - You do not start attacking USMC Jets, Choppers, Boats, AA or Infantry on the carrier or in the red-zone sphere indidcated on the map-image as 'USMC Airspace'. - You can follow a Jet back to the carrier if you like but I can't think of many situations where this will actually happen so it's kind of a mute point. Again, you should not go hunting Jets/Choppers on or around the carrier that you've not previously been engaged with. - You can follow a Chopper back to the carrier and continue attacking it until one or both of you are destroyed. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 17.01.2017, 17:52 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
So, if you steal a jet from the, AF and land it on the carrier, a China jet can come to the carrier and destroy it, Wouldn't auto pick up on it, attacking carrier. |
| 17.01.2017, 18:24 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Auto admin warns players too if they kill heli v heli when the heli goes back to safe base and the other heli finishes the job. Isbt really an inconvenience since its a rare sight (just as stealing a jet and getting killed on the carrier), so i dont see a problem https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 17.01.2017, 20:03 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
Never tried it but no, AdminMap should recognize you're destroying a J10 (empty or with pilot, doesn't matter) and since you're China too it should not warn you, because you're most likely destroying a stolen vehicle. This is theoretically, I don't know the code behind AdminMap, as 5tarLine may know instead; and I have never tried to perform the stunt you've stated either.  I guess we can try to see who's right after all?Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 EDIT: 5tarLine you should add a link to http://www.lost-soldie...;topic=14&page=2#3454 in the O.P., like "further explaination of the rules here". [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 17.01.2017, 20:24 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
There will be no warnings anymore for stolen vehicles being killed in a fixed base. If you see any please let us know. I'm not sure what happens if an enemy gets out of the stolen vehicle and is killed by its explosion though but this will be pretty rare and you don't get kicked for the first warning anyway. AutoAdmin should detect dog-fighting jets/choppers & pursuits in most instances but it doesn't get it right every time. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 19.01.2017, 08:01 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
I Last month I stole a jet from the airfield, and landed it on the carrier,and somebody else took of in it, as I'm not a good pilot, Auto gave no warnings ,if that's any help ! |
| 19.01.2017, 09:03 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Why would there be a warning in that situation? There are no warnings for stealing. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 19.01.2017, 09:30 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
china jet in us airspace ?? |
| 19.01.2017, 10:45 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Nope, a jet can fly through the airspace. Also, if the player inside the vehicle is USMC there will definitely not be a warning  [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
19.01.2017, 17:41 - cataly63 - Sergeant - 438 Posts
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| 19.01.2017, 19:31 - EYELESS - Sergeant - 486 Posts
Damn, this is so cool! |
| 21.01.2017, 00:40 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
USMC Pilots In Jets: "Under no circumstances do you ever attack a Chinese J-10 Jet, Z-10 Attack Chopper or Z-8 Transport Chopper when it is on the Runway or Helipad. It doesn't matter if it's just taking off or returning to the Pad or Runway, if it's on the ground in those zones you don't attack it." USMC Pilots In Choppers: "Pretty much free to do as they please". Well perhaps we should have a discussion on that. Why is a helicopter allowed to kill both the chopper and the J-10 at Airfield as soon as somebody gets in? I mean, what chace do they have against a TV missle their your way? It's basically a free raping ticket for the cinema.  Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 21.01.2017, 06:48 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
I guess choppers are more vulnerable since they havent got the speed to come, attack, run and come back immediately. The problem though is that often choppers will stay at 400m and just TV whatever tries to get up... Wouldn't be against a no rape rule for choppers too https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 21.01.2017, 13:36 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
"The problem though is that often choppers will stay at 400m and just TV whatever tries to get up..." That's the point of my post. Jet has speed, true, but it needs to get close and make a swift attack; you have a chance to use anti-air missles or Eryx. But the chopper can stay at a safe distance and pin you down, without even letting you take off. Is that fair? Jets get punished for runway kills but Helicopters can perform them? :'D Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 21.01.2017, 13:55 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
You tell'em gurlll! No but it's true, you have a point https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
21.01.2017, 23:27 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
 I'm afraid I don't agree at all. If a chopper is in range to hit you with a TV then you are able to see him, even if it's right on the edge of the max TV range. If you can see a chopper then you need to make a careful decision about whether to get in a chopper/jet and try and take off or hit him with a TV from the helipad. With experience, you will get these decisions mainly correct, sometimes though you will get TVed. If he's circling around airfield killing then it's normally not a good idea to jump in an aircraft unless you can hit him with jet missiles from the runway or he's bad. Jets speed mean they can appear almost out of nowhere and destroyed a grounded aircraft in less than 1 second leaving you no chance to react or defend yourself. There are also 2 jets and without this rule Chinese Jets/Choppers would have no chance of taking off for a whole round against any half-decent pair of pilots once they were shot down. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 22.01.2017, 05:12 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Do you not see the contradiction between these two lines? You say it yourself, when a heli hovers at 400m you can not hit it by any other means than with a jet or heli HOWEVER, it's not a good idea to get in this jet/heli when he's hovering at 400m and targets these exact aircrafts. Indeed, the jet missiles give you a chance to get in the jet and immediately attack the heli. The chance of him being stupid enough to hover right in front of the jet and his missile range is however close to 0. This leaves the TV lissile from the heli. The chance of you being able to start the heli and look up far enough to see the enemy heli and shoot him with tv (about 20 seconds) is however also close to 0. The enemy heli will see you start the heli from far and shoot you within 5 seconds  If a jet does the same, yes he has the chance to appear out of nowhere, but he has to dive in head first like shark says, giving you the chance to shoot him with stinger/eryx. If he's decent enough he can shoot it also from 400m but thats way harder and much less likely compared to a heli. A jet cant hover that easily so when he looks at you from 400m he will be at 50m after a few seconds. He has waaay less time than a heli hovering and shooting with tv missiles. Conclusion: heli: can hover at 400m and kill any spawning jet or heli in seconds while staying at 400m. Impossible to hit from the ground unless he is stupid enough to fly in range of the spawning jet or the airfield stinger (very unlikely if he's smart enough to stay far away). Jet: can appear out of nowhere but will often get closer considering his speed and will be vulnerable to ground attacks like eryx and stingers. https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 22.01.2017, 05:35 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
No, not really, what is the contradiction exactly between those lines? They are just two different statements about the same topic. Even good pilots will turn their back on the Stinger / J-10 from time to time giving you an opportunity to attack them if you are nearby. Like I said, it's a careful decision, most times if the heli is hovering at the maximum distance from the airfield they will also be engaged with other targets, it's about picking the right moment to get up in the air. If they are attacking airfield then AntiTank players need to do their job and jeeps can help too. That's just part of the game, it's not a problem as such. Airfield gets pinned down, it's up to the Chinese team to damage/destroy the attacker to get their aircraft back in the sky. I have seen it a lot actually and have killed plenty of choppers with the J-10 or nearby Stinger it's very easy. Also, you are way out with the 20 seconds, it's much less to lift the nose and fire a TV if you know what you are doing. I have also killed many choppers & jets doing exactly that whilst on the helipad. Missiles, Bombs, MG can all take out grounded aircraft with ease from distance. Stingers/IGLAs are pretty useless against any half decent jet pilot and jets have to be flying pretty low to get regularly hit with an ERYX, I fly low all of the time and rarely get hit with ERYX because I anticipate and dodge them. 2 strong Jets can terrorise an airfield much moreso than 1 heli over the course of a round on a no rules server. Conclusion: I don't agree and I'm pretty sure most Wake veterans won't either. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 22.01.2017, 07:08 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
You and me, at the playground around the corner in 15 minutes. Lets settle this as men. https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 22.01.2017, 08:10 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Playground? [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 22.01.2017, 09:14 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
You weren't there star... you weren't there... https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 22.01.2017, 09:27 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
for me, when heli is raping the af ( often last flag) people start leaving,! |
| 22.01.2017, 11:48 - RemyBE - Senior Aircraftman - 23 Posts
@ jostotest has a point... |
| 22.01.2017, 19:36 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
You and me, at the playground around the corner in 15 minutes. Lets settle this as men. As long as it's not the bike sheds lol |
| 22.01.2017, 22:17 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
To me it makes no sense either way; not everyone is a pro-pilot 5tarLine, but it takes just one pro-pilot to rape Airfield. Belgero meant that your statements are like a dog biting its tail: the only way to kill a far away chopper is either with another chopper or with a jet, but you can't hop into those two vehicles otherwise you'll get blown up by said chopper in a matter of seconds. I agree though, somehow you just need to wait the perfect moment to hop in, but most of the times you just get raped either way by a TV missle. You see, with the Jet it's the whole vehicle that needs to approach Airfield, thus leaving it vulnerable to attacks (plus, the China Jet and Heli are protected by the rule, so I could hop in as soon as the USMC Jet passes and have a chance to take off and track him. But no, the stationary heli will do what the Jet can't: rape me on the runway ). With the helicopter instead, it's the TV missle itself that gets closer to Airfield, while the whole vehicle can safely hover at 1000 feet into the air, far away from the action and from the AA / AntiTanks.Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 23.01.2017, 09:10 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Look guys, end of the day, there are two jets and each one of them in the right hands is a superior opponent to grounded aircraft on airfield compared to a chopper, whether they can be attacked from close or not, the attacks from close are not effective against any half-decent pilot. There is only 1 heli and it is a lot slower and easier to take out than a jet or two jets. Don't forget on a semi-populated server there will be Chinese players near other flags with jeeps & anti-air weapons which will also be attacking the heli if it's hovering far from airfield. So no, i don't agree that my statements are "like a dog biting its tail" or a contradiction to themselves, I've spent a lot more hours on Wake than either of you and enough to know that the current rules on Jets/Choppers are exactly how I want them and for the most part stimulate a good game. [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 23.01.2017, 12:52 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
jostotest wrote: You and me, at the playground around the corner in 15 minutes. Lets settle this as men. As long as it's not the bike sheds lol Hey 5tar, dont know why you are quoting me, I am not involved in this, my comment was to try and take any heat out of it |
| 23.01.2017, 12:56 - 1ARMBLINDMAN - Corporal - 211 Posts
Na do it like the OLD Days of the west .. Guns !!! Draw !!! Shoot first talk latter !!! |
| 23.01.2017, 13:18 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
I quoted you because I thought what you wrote was funny, see my laughing smiley/emoji after? The rest of my response was intended for S_h_a_r_k_93 & Belgero [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 23.01.2017, 17:37 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
ah ,yes ,sorry 5tar |
| 23.01.2017, 20:09 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Yeah he was only rude to me, don't worry :'( https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 23.01.2017, 23:42 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
No more shark cookies for 5tarLine. That's for sure!!  S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 23.01.2017, 23:49 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
How was I rude? Sometimes there are changes that are worth making / necessary. This is not one of them, put your energy into something else ladies.  [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 24.01.2017, 06:30 - Belgero - Corporal - 237 Posts
Sir yes sir! https://battlelog.co/bfhq.php?id=1817513943 |
| 24.01.2017, 20:43 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
Copy that!  Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 28.01.2017, 09:50 - idkmyaccountdetails - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 78 Posts
What if Airfield is neutral or US? Answer may seem obvious but if I can't find it written anywhere - even in your clarification - it's worth asking. |
| 28.01.2017, 21:52 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
The status of the flag does not matter. If it's neutral, and a J-10 is on the runway and a Chinese Players hops in, it's protected: USMC Jet Pilots cannot kill him when he's taking off. The same applies if there's a J-10 and the Airfield is currently capped by USA. If there's a F-18 though, and the flag is neutral or USA or even capped back by China, it is not protected cause it will count as a stolen USMC Jet. 5tarLine can confirm my statements. Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 28.01.2017, 21:54 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Beautiful, you took the words out of my mouth [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 28.01.2017, 21:59 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
Is that a copycat of another post of yours? It's not the first time you write something like that. Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 reporting for duty Sir!@CONbineHarvister The same applies to the China Attack & Transport Helicopters: they are always protected during take off, by attacks from the USMC Jet Pilots, regardless of the status of the Airfield flag. Currently though, the rules allow both China Heli(s) and Jets to be raped by USMC Helicopters. [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 28.01.2017, 22:31 - idkmyaccountdetails - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 78 Posts
I won't suggest for it to be changed because I'm sure it's for a good reason, but it does seem odd that USMC jet pilots can't do anything, even if they're the ones holding the flag! Neutral is fair enough I guess. I suppose it does make the rule easier to understand, less exceptions. Also I think it'd be super helpful if all these clarifications are added to the original post. I was "privately" working on doing that but since I wasn't actually asked to, I was prepared for you to say 'no thanks'. If you want me to finish off the job and post it internally that can be arranged. No rules actually changed, just clarifications/more detailed. |
| 29.01.2017, 00:12 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
No wait I'm not following you. The USMC Jet Pilots' ability to kill grounded aircraft is not affected by the status of the flag; they can, in fact, do something. For example they can rape a F-18 that is going to be stolen by a Chinese Pilot (for example when Airfield is actually capped by USCM). Help is alwasy accepted buddy, I thought 5tarLine already added a link to his post above? Or perhaps I suggested him to do it. :'D Go ahead and post your work in Barracks, if that's where you meant. 5tarLine will review it when he has time to do so, and I will too. Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 29.01.2017, 00:16 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
Exactly, we don't want overly complicated rules, they are complicated enough. Also, what happens if a pilot jumps in a J-10 or Chopper and 0.5 seconds later, Airfield is neutralised or captured, would it be fair that all of a sudden they can be attacked by a jet whilst powering up the engines? But mostly, to prevent confusion, jets don't attack grounded aircraft under any circumstances - unless it's a stolen US vehicle or F-18, I thought by not mentioning anything about who was controlling the flag it would be obvious that this isn't relevant but I guess not Please send me a PM with your clarifications / additional detail and I'll use it to edit my OP. As S_h_a_r_k_93 said we welcome anyone who is willing to help with this stuff.Cheers, 5tarLine [ALIGN=center][nor]https://www.lost-soldiers.org/images/lsts.gif[/nor][/ALIGN] |
| 17.02.2017, 18:59 - KPbIMPOC - - 2 Posts
Я не знаю английский,Вопрос такой можно атаковать вертолет MEC на взлетной площадке при взлете? |
| 17.02.2017, 21:43 - Galactic|Pegasus - Chief Technician - 861 Posts
It´s only allowed to Attack Helis and Jets on Pad with the Attack Heli. You are not allowed to Attack these Assets, Jet/Heli with a Jet until they got up. Вы можете сделать только позволили атаковать HELIS и струях на Pad с атаки Хели. Вы не можете атаковать эти активы, Jet / Heli с Jet, пока они не вставали. |
| 17.02.2017, 22:01 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
Sorry KPbIMPOC but we don't speak Russian either. Well, most of us don't; you'll have to use a translator please. Regarding your question, both the MEC helicopters cannot be attacked by USMC Jets, when the helicopters are still on the helipads; but they can be attacked by USMC helicopters, , even when they are are still on the helipads.Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 29.04.2017, 15:43 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
If I have read correctly (just to be sure), artillerying the assets on Airfield is allowed, right? Like destroying the Jet or Heli with artillery. Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 29.04.2017, 16:48 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
Yes it is allowed |
| 08.05.2017, 09:09 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
Strange rule that one, as the China commander is not allowed to arty the pads on the carrier. (anywhere on the carrier ) |
| 08.05.2017, 09:51 - 1ARMBLINDMAN - Corporal - 211 Posts
jostotest that would be a KILLER to the game if any arti on the carrier was allowed.. But you already new that.. You feeling ok ?? Lmao.. |
| 08.05.2017, 14:44 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
Of course I know its allowed !, |
| 08.05.2017, 20:42 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
Well, destroying the assets at Airfield with arty is a bit lame but whatever.  Just wanted to make sure if it was actually allowed or not. Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 05.02.2018, 14:38 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
We need to state the rules against destroying empty air vehicles with either Jet or Helicopter; I am not recalling if killing empty aircraft with the Helicopter is allowed. Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 05.02.2018, 15:05 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
until now it was only forbidden with a jet |
| 05.02.2018, 15:34 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
It's true that many players are confused. Some of them think padraping is generally forbidden - meaning the attacking and killing of people waiting at the pads without vehicles standing on them. Others think that attacking grounded vehicles is not allowed - neither with chopper or heli, nor with Eryx, tank or arty. Then there are some people thinking killing on pads is not allowed, but destroying empty vehicles is ok ...and so on...many confusion and some unneccesary reports. |
| 05.02.2018, 16:26 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts
Pretty clear my dear. It's all in the thread. US-Heli against CH-aircrafts allowed. US-Jet against CH-aircrafts not allowed. F18 and stolen aircraft can be killed. |
| 05.02.2018, 17:01 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
It is clear (to me at least, Carbon may have received / seen feedback from the actual players) but the thread doesn't state the word "empty" anywhere; that's my point. It's not written in the thread that aircraft are protected even when empty from USA Jets. Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 05.02.2018, 17:29 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts
It's about grounded aircrafts. No matter if the aircrafts are empty or not. |
| 05.02.2018, 17:32 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts
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| 05.02.2018, 19:06 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
That's what I would like to add as a simple statement. Thank you for quoting the above, will hot-link it in the thread. Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 29.09.2018, 20:49 - rodjroy123 - - 2 Posts
Where can I download the map? |
| 30.09.2018, 01:50 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
Uuuuhm ... this map is already part of the base game.  Don't you have it or are you looking for a particular version of this map? (wake airshow ... wake dogfighting ... ). Regards, Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 30.09.2018, 14:56 - rodjroy123 - - 2 Posts
I cant play on this server it says I dont have the map of rotation  Im using BF2 HD pro II |
| 30.09.2018, 16:58 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
Well, that's not the "regular" Battlefield 2. Try to download it from here: https://www.moddb.com/...wake-island-2007-16-32-64. Let us know if you keep having troubles joining the server. Regards, Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93 [url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org#multimedia][bimg]https://i.imgur.com/iwPUBn7.png[/bimg][/url] [size=4]All my contacts, social media and more! [/size][size=5][url=https://shark.lost-soldiers.org]shark.lost-soldiers.org[/url][/size] |
| 22.01.2019, 14:02 - KPbIMPOC - - 2 Posts
Привет ,подскажите где скачать демо (карта Wake Island ,по Москве закончилась 16.4  |
| 22.01.2019, 15:38 - TAI-LUNG - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 90 Posts
http://demos.lost-soldiers.org/1/?C=M;O=D |