Ban AppealsAPPROVED: Stats Padding


05.08.2018, 17:09 - [TMG]gerrywar3 - Senior Aircraftman - 25 Posts
Non penserai mica che io venga quà a chiedere di togliere il ban dai server,vero Dillman!Avevo detto che vi avrei dato una mano a riempire i server,basta guardare le statistiche delle ore,non avete piacere in questo,saluti e buon proseguimento!
 
05.08.2018, 17:17 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
Try it again in english please
 
05.08.2018, 17:44 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts
Wie bitte?
 
05.08.2018, 18:01 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
Nearest I can find :-
Non penserai mica che io venga quà a chiedere di togliere il ban dai server,vero Dillman!Avevo detto che vi avrei dato una mano a riempire i server,basta guardare le statistiche delle ore,non avete piacere in questo,saluti e buon proseguimento!



You do not think that I come here to ask to remove the ban from the servers, true Dillman! I had said that I would have helped to fill the servers, just look at the statistics of the hours, you do not like this, greetings and good continuation!
 
05.08.2018, 19:59 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
[TMG wrote:

gerrywar3]Avevo detto che vi avrei dato una mano a riempire i server,basta guardare le statistiche delle ore,non avete piacere in questo,saluti e buon proseguimento!

Did you not see my Discord message sent on the 30th?
You are welcome to help start the server; you are not welcome to pad your stats in the process ...

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06.08.2018, 14:26 - McSlaine - Corporal - 326 Posts
I can't say anything about stats padding but if there is nobody on Vehicle Rotation and i see there is a lesser liked map currently playing i sometimes take all the flags to get the map changed because map timer is set to 3 or 3 1/2 hours.
(how about enabling map vote on Veh Rotation ?)
And then there is the boredom factor, i'd rather wait around on Vehicle Rotation for players than join Wake :-)

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06.08.2018, 20:09 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
I believe map vote was already enabled, but a minimum number of votes must be issued in order for it to be successful. The behavior you describe is not a problem; the issue here are daily episodes where Gerrywar has capped all the flags, then switched to the other faction are recap everything ... sometimes multiple times in the same round. Or, implicitly or explicitly arranging "matched flag-capping" with the enemy team (each team caps a flag, then they move onto another flag at the same time, in a never-ending loop).

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07.08.2018, 11:24 - McSlaine - Corporal - 326 Posts
......well.......i used to think that stats padders were assholes but now where there are so few people playing this game and because it gets you no advantage in the game i think "so what" ?

Does anyone really care if he has one stripe or three stars ?
so he gets a nicer badge next to his name.

Once you get all the unlocks it only makes a difference when applying for commander and getting enough players for that ........well.

I have played many rounds now with Gerrywar and he wasn't a quitter and he wasn't a cheater, even though he died a lot he stayed on the server and didn't go off in a huff.

I think it was a shame.

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07.08.2018, 15:59 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
Statspadding is forbidden on our servers

it is ok if you want to fill the server and it does not happen to take the flags that are there (on one side) to finish the round. But not daily for several rounds. In his case, it's scam.

Shark had already warned him.

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07.08.2018, 19:31 - McSlaine - Corporal - 326 Posts
Yes.
It was Never allowed on any server.
But it is a scam that does not harm other players or bring any profit in the game.
I just think it is a shame to ban good players for something which is (imho) trivial when there are so few players left.

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07.08.2018, 19:41 - McSlaine - Corporal - 326 Posts
I used to have tremendous fun joining padding servers and killing as many as possible before i got kicked or banned, but i see no point in padding any more and thus no point in stopping players from doing it.
At least they could attract other players to the server.
Gerrywar was a good player who played often and did not cheat, now there is one less good player on LS servers, what difference would it make if his rank was padded ?
I personally couldn't give a monkeys.

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07.08.2018, 20:02 - [TMG]gerrywar3 - Senior Aircraftman - 25 Posts
You see, if there is a rule must be respected, but we can also talk about it, but from there to say, that for a few points taken, a few hundred, and often by mistake, and even to be quoted as a swindler, makes me smile, knowing that I have committed to the community. I repeat I'm sacrificing, and not a little but if not enough, it was a pleasure also, having played with you and for you!
 
10.08.2018, 09:59 - McSlaine - Corporal - 326 Posts
I cant find any mention of Gerrywar's punishment in the neighbouring thread, was it a permaban ?
If so please consider changing to temp ban.

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10.08.2018, 10:26 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts
You can find Punishments here, for Example:
https://www.lost-soldi...=forum_topic&topic=17

>> No Glitching (Immediate Permanent Ban)
>> No Stat Padding (Immediate Permanent Ban)
>> No Cheating / Hacking (Immediate Permanent Ban)
 
10.08.2018, 11:06 - [TMG]gerrywar3 - Senior Aircraftman - 25 Posts
With all possible respect, I think that the rule No Stat Padding (Immediate Permanent Ban), is excessive and unbalanced with other infringements certainly more serious and justified. You would lose consensus, players and maybe even donations. Dearest Dillmann, you've already made a discriminatory post against me, and it's not a good moderator, go ahead! who Controls who controls! If this is the environment, the community gives me an explanation, we can go wrong and you won't! Treat each other with respect!
 
10.08.2018, 11:21 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts
[TMG wrote:

gerrywar3]you've already made a discriminatory post against me


No.
I told you my opinion of your commanding. Nothing else.
If i come to a forum and claim prosa like "i am excellent in infantery" - but don't know how to reload a gun i will hopefully get a clear statement to that too.

"I've been playing BF2 since it started, with excellent results, especially as a Commander."

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
 
10.08.2018, 13:04 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
@ Mcslaine " But it is a scam that does not harm other players or bring any profit in the game".
Correct me if I am wrong here, but I believe that the stats have a bearing on rank, and if you are a high rank, you can overrule lower ranks to be commander .Therefore you have an advantage over them when applying. making stats padding " Unfair".
 
10.08.2018, 19:35 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
jostotest wrote:

@ Mcslaine " But it is a scam that does not harm other players or bring any profit in the game". Correct me if I am wrong here, but I believe that the stats have a bearing on rank, and if you are a high rank, you can overrule lower ranks to be commander .Therefore you have an advantage over them when applying. Making stats padding "Unfair".

The important thing is that Gerrywar3 understands that we take stats padding (as well as the other major offences) very seriously; even though I'll second that the game is almost dead and that padding is meaningless nowadays, this doesn't make it right.

The purpose of the ban is also to teach you a lesson. If the banned player is smart enough to understand why he/she was banned, and has the brains to come here and sincerely apologize for his wrongdoings, I believe there is the possibility to start building again. (this of course depends on the offence; for instance, as this Forum board says, cheaters will never be unbanned).

Reading what Gerrywar3 says I can infer he has (at the very list) understood that our rules are not only here to make our Forum boards prettier, but they are enforced in-game as well. This is why I am feeling kind enough to turn this ban appeal into a Community vote, which will last 2 weeks.

Please vote. Kind regards,
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11.08.2018, 08:16 - [TMG]gerrywar3 - Senior Aircraftman - 25 Posts
I totally agree with you, with your affirmations! A rule is a rule and must be respected, and there is the punishment, and that an apology is in order, although I have been accused unjustly, we did everyday and it's not like that, but I want to reiterate that this rule must be improved. In my opinion, the ban is overkill against cheaters really with hack, a punishment is more than enough! An example; Valerus, reported by me, has been lifted the ban, having seen what he's done, maybe you won't do it again, but the fact remains that his crime hurts the whole community, mine is irrelevant in comparison, but it's water under the bridge, if you have made that decision You'll take responsibility. On the battlefield there are watching. We hope everyone comes in your understanding and good job for this community in evolution if well-conducted!
 
11.08.2018, 08:38 - Galactic|Pegasus - Chief Technician - 861 Posts
If Valerrus would be Cheating, he would not stand a Chance to get back onto our Servers. Give us a clean Example of his Cheating. And he would be gone in Lightspeed. I watched his Youtubevideos and could not find anything. Just saying. I think he is good, but correct me if im wrong. Give me clean Evidence and i will perm Ban him by myself.
 
11.08.2018, 10:49 - McSlaine - Corporal - 326 Posts
Jostotest wrote:

@ Mcslaine " But it is a scam that does not harm other players or bring any profit in the game".
Correct me if I am wrong here, but I believe that the stats have a bearing on rank, and if you are a high rank, you can overrule lower ranks to be commander .Therefore you have an advantage over them when applying. making stats padding " Unfair".


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Thanks Lost Soldiers for the vote.

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11.08.2018, 13:32 - jostotest - Administrator - 962 Posts
Im not condemning TMG]gerrywar3, I have voted for the least time.for ban.Tthis is to point out why some things are unfair. i.e. stats padding to gain an advantage over junior ranks, to become commander. I am not suggesting that Gerry has done this.
 
12.08.2018, 11:58 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
Regarding Valerrus we examined this case with much effort all together. Since we found no absolute clear evidence for cheating, we won't ban him as we think that a player is innocent as long there is an explicit proof.
Regarding your case, I voted for 1 month because I see that you show insight and sense and that you are sorry for what you have done. Moreover I respect the fact, that you tried to fill up our server and that you donated a little amount to our community.
But be sure, further statspadding won't be tolerated!
 
12.08.2018, 13:10 - [TMG]gerrywar3 - Senior Aircraftman - 25 Posts
Yes I know I did not provide the evidence, but maybe I helped to recover a lost player.
 
12.08.2018, 13:56 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
[TMG wrote:

gerrywar3]Yes I know I did not provide the evidence, but maybe I helped to recover a lost player.

What the heck does this mean? Laugh Whatever, let's keep Valerrus163's discussion to his thread, shall we? As Germany SW03_Carbon said, do not waste this second chance by slipping into padding (or any other offense) again ... our Admins are informed and are always attentive.

Regards,
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12.08.2018, 17:15 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts
[TMGgerrywar3 wrote:

although I have been accused unjustly


Please explain that. Thank you.
 
28.08.2018, 19:03 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
The ban will be lifted after the 5th of September. Please be more wary of our rules next time; according to the offence, the punishment will be harder, and the chances to appeal yet another ban will plummet.

You can find the detailed rules of each server of ours, inside these Forum topics: https://www.lost-soldi....php?site=forum&cat=3. Please keep in mind our rules at all times (even when you're alone) when playing on our servers.

Kind regards,
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10.09.2018, 00:54 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5388 Posts
Ban has been removed on the 6th (night), please don't make me repeat what I have stated above ... we assume you know our rules clearly now Mr. Gerrywar3 and I hope you understood we monitor the activities on our servers even when we aren't playing in them; so don't rely on being warned anymore because there may be no warnings at all for future offences.

Kind regards, please enjoy our services according to our rules.
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